19:37:13 From Meina Zhu to Som Naidu(Privately) : Hi Dr. Naidu, How are you? I am Meina Zhu. Dr. Bonk said he will be in Zoom soon. 19:52:53 From Rajagopal Sankaranarayanan : Yes Dr.Bonk 19:53:37 From Meina Zhu : Awesome! 19:54:00 From hyunchoi : yes 19:54:48 From hyunchoi : lol 19:56:45 From Lina Metlevskiene : Yes, I am from Kansas 19:59:56 From Ke : Hi welcome everyone! 20:00:10 From Susie Gronseth : Greetings from Houston, TX! 20:00:28 From Meina Zhu : Greeting from Bloomington, IN! 20:02:06 From Thapanee Thammetar : Gretting from Bangkok, Thailand 20:02:57 From Khansa : Hi everyone 20:03:04 From tel amiel : Hi all 20:03:13 From Xornam : Hello to everyone as well! 20:03:15 From Mostafa Azad Kamal : greetings from Bangladesh Open University 20:04:00 From melinda : Hello everyone.. from Mel of the Philippines but currently in Toronto attending the ICDE World Conference 20:04:29 From Mihyun : Hi all from Austin, TX 20:08:16 From tel amiel : lost your audio 20:08:17 From Rajagopal Sankaranarayanan : Hi your voice is breaking 20:08:33 From Som Naidu to Meina Zhu(Privately) : We lost much of that 20:08:46 From Sanjaya Mishra : ke...maybe check your connections 20:09:00 From zorainiwatiabas : hi Thapanee 20:10:08 From tel amiel : should we volunteer ? ;) 20:10:10 From Meina Zhu to Som Naidu(Privately) : Equity & empowerment: A growing body of research shows MOOC takers are mostly college graduates from developed countries. In your experiences, how do MOOCs reach those who previously lacked adequate educational access in your country or region? How can learners in developing countries be empowered from MOOCs or other open learning opportunities? 20:10:26 From Ke : A growing body of research shows MOOC takers are mostly college graduates from developed countries. In your experiences, how do MOOCs reach those who previously lacked adequate educational access in your country or region? How can learners in developing countries be empowered from MOOCs or other open learning opportunities? 20:10:27 From Meina Zhu : Equity & empowerment: A growing body of research shows MOOC takers are mostly college graduates from developed countries. In your experiences, how do MOOCs reach those who previously lacked adequate educational access in your country or region? How can learners in developing countries be empowered from MOOCs or other open learning opportunities? 20:17:26 From hyunchoi : i did 20:17:48 From Khansa : Great! 20:18:58 From hyunchoi : in malaysia what systems do you use for MOOCs? 20:19:25 From hyunchoi : hi from illinois 20:20:54 From hyunchoi : we can't hear her 20:20:56 From Sanjaya Mishra : www.openlearning.com 20:21:49 From hyunchoi : if governments identify university to develop moocs, do they offer financial support, too? 20:22:46 From Sanjaya Mishra : Yes, in Malaysia the govt support funding to the unis 20:23:24 From Khansa : Great! 20:23:33 From tel amiel : have to leave for a second, back in a bit 20:24:43 From Khansa : So Sanjaya, is it for students to attend and then have their certificates from all over Malysia? Or it is specific for university students? 20:24:51 From Leila : Which one is more important to successfully implement Moocs in a system that is not familiar with its value; government support, schools culture, or policy changing? 20:25:34 From Susie Gronseth : I heard mention of challenges of language and Internet access. In what ways have you seen accessibility (for visual and hearing disabilities, etc.) addressed in your work with MOOCs and open education in your countries? 20:26:11 From Sanjaya Mishra : yes, Malaysia offers a a good model supported by govt and also have a credit transfer policy 20:27:11 From Mostafa Azad Kamal : how MOOCs can be acceptable as a formal course? I mean as a credit course. 20:36:17 From Susie Gronseth : Thank you very much, Melinda! I would be interested to hear more about your work with universal access and multiple pathways in your MOOC work - slgronseth@uh.edu 20:36:26 From Mihyun : When you are designing MOOCs in your country or local level students, have you noticed any element specifically designed to the students? 20:36:26 From Atieno : Hi, are we on for second panel 20:37:04 From Xornam : Unfortunately, no projects happening here in Antigua (at least none that I am aware of) 20:39:16 From melinda : Hi Susie.. sure.. lets exchange notes through email: mbandalaria@upou.edu.ph 20:39:23 From melinda : i have noted your email.. thanks 20:39:54 From Susie Gronseth : Great! Thanks, Melinda. Will follow up with you by email. 20:40:00 From melinda : sure 20:41:33 From Curt Bonk : Mel...Susie is at the U of Houston and is an IU grad like Mimi. 20:42:28 From melinda : oh.. nice.. would probably visit Houston one of these days.. I have a sister living there.. 20:43:13 From Susie Gronseth : I hope she is okay with the flooding? 20:43:32 From melinda : oh yeah.. ok 20:43:36 From tel amiel : Good example of repurposing/remix 20:43:41 From melinda : not much affected… 20:44:15 From hyunchoi : the report sounds great 20:45:46 From tel amiel : good to distinguish closed from open moocs 20:45:57 From Som Naidu to Meina Zhu(Privately) : Hey Mostafa...how are you? 20:46:17 From hyunchoi : regional MOOC development, i would say 20:47:01 From Thapanee : ThaiMOOC https://thaimooc.org/ 20:47:13 From hyunchoi : they are open 20:47:30 From hyunchoi : but since they are in the local langauge, not everyone can take it 20:47:59 From tel amiel : that could be said of English as well ;) 20:48:06 From Atieno : Hi, please see link to publication - OER in Kenya for UNESCO IITE https://tinyurl.com/ydyq3n85 20:48:24 From Xornam : Exactly Tel! 20:49:00 From Meina Zhu to Som Naidu(Privately) : Hi Som, the message you intended to send to Mostafa was sent to me privately. You can choose send to "everyone" so that Mostafa can see this. 20:49:02 From Rajagopal Sankaranarayanan : Thank you, Atieno! 20:49:18 From Khansa : Thanks for the links! 20:49:18 From Mihyun : Thanks for sharing the report! 20:50:08 From Susie Gronseth : Thank you for the links! 20:50:08 From Wayne Whiteman, Ga Tech : I'm familiar with the Coursera platform. While the material is available are available for free to audit. But some material is put being a paywall. This encourages a revenue stream and helps sustain the offering of MOOCs through a workalble business model. 20:52:00 From Khansa : I think using the local language is an advantage as the target is to reach the people of Malaysia. 20:53:43 From hyunchoi : agreed, Khansa 20:54:14 From hyunchoi : that has been one of barriers 20:54:35 From tel amiel : Indeed 20:54:42 From Mostafa Azad Kamal : sorry I can hear... can't fix the problem too. 20:55:21 From Xornam : But how do people get access to translation services? 20:55:31 From hyunchoi : by that definition, then most of MOOCs are not open 20:55:43 From tel amiel : yes, that is the argument 20:55:58 From tel amiel : Open is not simply a question of access 20:56:10 From Wayne Whiteman, Ga Tech : I think credentialing of MOOCs for formal academic credit is key. Once this challege is overcome, more sustainable business models will quicky follow. 20:56:54 From Sanjaya Mishra : http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01587919.2017.1369350 20:57:17 From tel amiel : (11pm here, have to leave folks, thank you for a very diverse and insightful discussion!) 20:57:18 From hyunchoi : agreed 20:57:23 From Rajagopal Sankaranarayanan : Thank you, Sanjaya ! 20:57:39 From Wayne Whiteman, Ga Tech : Creditionaling of MOOCs for formal academic credit has been done in a few small scale projects, but is still in its infancy. 20:58:13 From Ke : Thank Tel! 20:59:38 From Xornam : I also need to leave. Thank you everyone. I learned a lot! ;) 21:00:53 From Khansa : Interesting point Atieno 21:00:54 From Meina Zhu : Thank you, Xornam! 21:02:12 From Leila : thanks for your great points. 21:03:54 From Susie Gronseth : Thank you, panelists, for this engaging first session! I will look for the recording to catch the conversation in the second hour. 21:04:25 From zorainiwatiabas : Is there a universal definition for MOOCs? 21:04:35 From Wayne Whiteman, Ga Tech : As another business model, students can learn a subject by MOOC and then receive formal academic transcipt credit by taking an advanced standing exam. These advanced standing exams are generally much cheaper than normal tuition and fees. But they provide another aspect of a business model that can become more sustainable. I teach in Engineering. Credentially with official transcript credit is key. Only then will students find value that they would be willing to pay for. 21:05:47 From hyunchoi : I don't think we need to have a universal definition for MOOCs. it can be contextual. 21:06:28 From zorainiwatiabas : hence, no universal definition but a few definitions depending on context 21:08:06 From Khansa : What are the aspects that differ in terms of MOOCs' various defenitions? 21:08:48 From hyunchoi : the moocs we see now is different from the original by Siemes anyway 21:09:00 From Sanjaya Mishra : The top tier institutions can challenge the accreditation agencies. but, not necessarily every one can do that. 21:10:00 From Ke : Opportunities: Unique opportunities for MOOC and other OER in developing countries? Sustainable development: How can MOOCs and open educational resources lead to sustainable development goals? How might this play out? 21:10:35 From Sanjaya Mishra : MOOC emerged from the lack of scalability and cost-effectiveness of online learning. What's your take? 21:10:44 From Jonathan Coleman : Is it possible that the infant Competency Based Education movement could play a part in developing the frameworks and assessments necessary to allow widespread credentialing of MOOCs. 21:11:08 From Mihyun : If MOOCs are/can be contextual, I think its definition and its major focus can be different, country by country or institute by institute. 21:14:01 From Som Naidu : Hey JZ? Good to have 21:15:51 From hyunchoi : at u of illinois, we offer mba in MOOCs. as somebody pointed out earlier, they are not going to have their content license as OER. in other words, MOOCs has become cost-effective online education in some contexts. 21:20:30 From Wayne Whiteman, Ga Tech : I have to drop off. Thanks everyone for the discussion. Wayne Whiteman 21:22:53 From hyunchoi : i do think Regional MOOC development is a way to go 21:24:03 From zorainiwatiabas : Ha…different MOOCs for different regions/countries 21:24:07 From Mihyun : In a very practical level, the way our society values MOOCs can also affect the sustainability. For instance, if some interviewers don’t know much about MOOCs or don’t add lots of value on learning experiences in MOOCs, it will probably have an influence on the job search competition and eventually someone’s future choice taking MOOCs. 21:25:07 From Khansa : Agree, Mihyun. 21:25:33 From Jingjing : Hi Som, great to see you here~~ 21:26:48 From hyunchoi : that is why u of i went on as a degree program, unfortunately 21:28:15 From zorainiwatiabas : Hello and bye everyone. I need to go, unfortunately. Thanks Curt and Ke for hosting an interesting session. 21:28:56 From Khansa : Thanks Zorainiwatiabas! 21:31:02 From hyunchoi : that is so ture. its a whole system. 21:33:06 From hyunchoi : that is great 21:33:47 From Mihyun : Yeah! @Khansa I think if MOOCs can offer the opportunity to “spread the knowledge” to the general public, not only just for the elites or exclusively in higher education, MOOCs hight have another chance to be truly valued, though. But then this will lead me back to the questions we have talked about in this session, like “Who would pay for designing or managing MOOCs?” hmmmm 21:39:30 From Khansa : True! That's why it's a whole system as what Hyuchoi said. Jingjing's point is interesting too that we need research evidence for it. In short, it's still evolving :) 21:42:12 From hyunchoi : lol. what are these? 21:47:49 From hyunchoi : who would pay for developing moocs? bill gates foundation!! lol 21:48:33 From Atieno : Anyone exploring open pedagogy? 21:50:15 From hyunchoi : i agree with Jinging 21:50:48 From melinda : yes, quality in the context of open pedagogy 21:51:07 From melinda : from mere use of OERs to creation of OERs 22:02:09 From Som Naidu : And its working Curt...Well done!! 22:04:33 From hyunchoi : i was first one 22:05:21 From Mihyun : In the mid/longterm, more systematic change can be expected. Like” What are the roles of universities, research institue, & government in terms of designing MOOCs and supporting learners? What are their social governance?” maybe? 22:19:53 From hyunchoi : agreed 22:20:52 From Khansa : Thanks! 22:20:58 From Mihyun : Thank you! 22:21:14 From Atieno : Thanks to all for the interesting discussion. 22:21:15 From Khansa : It was a great session! 22:21:15 From melinda : Thanks Ke and Curt and congratulations 22:21:24 From Som Naidu : Thanks guys. Bye everyone!! 22:21:31 From Meina Zhu : Thank you all! 22:21:40 From melinda : thanks all for the wonderful ideas and inisghts 22:21:49 From Rajagopal Sankaranarayanan : Thank you everyone. Have a great conference, Dr. Bonk ! 22:21:59 From Jingjing : Thanks Curt and Ke for organising such a great event! Lots to take home. Great to see you here Som!! 22:22:08 From Thapanee : Thank you Curt, Ke and everyone 22:22:42 From hyunchoi : i will meet you downstair 22:22:49 From hyunchoi : ok 22:23:02 From Khansa : Bye! Looking for the book!